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Old Dec 29, 2005, 07:32 AM // 07:32   #21
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Guys, smite vs smite is because smite crawlers use Zealots fire. They are the only monster in game to use the skill and when they do, if they already have it on it triggers the dmg from it in an aoe around them. Therefore when you move into the area and they are all spawned, when they patrol near a coldfire or another group of smites and re-activate Zealots fire, they think they are attacking each other. This has been happening for ever and you can actually get it to happen more if your good at moving them around.

Test it, take 1 group of agro'd smites and keep running them around and around another non-agro'd group of smites, eventually one of the smites will turn on his zealots twice in a row and agro the smite beside him. And then its civil war time.

Nothing shocking, but yes, the candy cane drops do mess with your ecto drops, so technically there is a slight chance you could get less ecto now if your really unlucky.

Ecto is a rare crafting material, CC shards were coded to replace the rare and non rare crafting material drops and also the kill tag (demonic remains) etc drop. But...I still got 43 new ecto since the wintersday update :P
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Old Dec 29, 2005, 07:40 AM // 07:40   #22
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smites arent the only creatures to use zealots. the monks in FOW use it as well
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Old Dec 29, 2005, 10:24 AM // 10:24   #23
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Guys, smite vs smite is because smite crawlers use Zealots fire. They are the only monster in game to use the skill and when they do, if they already have it on it triggers the dmg from it in an aoe around them. Therefore when you move into the area and they are all spawned, when they patrol near a coldfire or another group of smites and re-activate Zealots fire, they think they are attacking each other. This has been happening for ever and you can actually get it to happen more if your good at moving them around.

Test it, take 1 group of agro'd smites and keep running them around and around another non-agro'd group of smites, eventually one of the smites will turn on his zealots twice in a row and agro the smite beside him. And then its civil war time.
Smites have always fought eachother. Occasionally there will be a mob that spawns which is enemy to both you and the other monsters in the area (look at FOW beaches: snarling driftwood attacks shadow warriors even though both are CPUs) Average smites CANNOT fight eachother - or other mobs even by aggroing them ZF - however, because ZF only does damage to ENEMIES. You'll often find that you haven't lost a single smite after they duel, and that the killed smites were an out-of-place mob (one that is extra and isn't usually there) or see that there is an extra mob, and they didn't end up fighting.

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After the Halloween update Anet did some undocumented UW nerfs. They increased the smites energy a lot making necros have to echo SV in order to run out their energy.
Sorry, but Smites still have the same amount of mana. You're probably mistaking this because your monk is using bonetti's defense and the smite are not hitting to trigger SV enough

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They also added a little change where sometimes in the first chamber if a nightmare pops up out in the open, it automatically aggros a single Aatxe with it. I'm sure people who do regular runs have noticed both of those.
Aataxes always aggro you out of the radius.. it means a nightmare was there and he was linked to the mob of the aatax

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also something i dont get is since there has to be less ectos on the market now.....how come ecto prices are going down..:?
Even with the less frequent drops instituted a while ago, ecto is getting farmed by every noob and his brother. The ratio of "less ecto: noob duo farmer" is still overbearing on the supply of ecto driving down price

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